02 November 2008

Implications of Proposition 8

* I understand that long posts can be tedious to read and in retrospect, I would have written this over a series of posts to increase readership. However, with the election upon us, I feel this topic is too heavy to go without comment. The end of this post includes a call to action for all supporters of Prop 8.

As the country preps itself for Tuesday’s historical election, my focus rests heavily upon California and Proposition 8. Proposition 8 seeks to include these 14 words in their state constitution (which were removed by 4 agenda-pushing judges who invalidated the will of 4 million Californians):

“Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid and recognized in California.”

This proposition has captivated the attention of much of the country and contributions have been heavy on both sides of the coin. To vote YES is to support traditional marriage as the only recognized form of marriage. To vote NO is to allow for more non-traditional marriages to be legalized, namely gay marriage.

Each day more and more groups and organizations come out in favor and in opposition to this proposition. My heart broke when my favorite company announced its public support of the Vote No camp.

As Latter-day Saints, we know the world will continue its downward spiral, so much to the point that there will be no middle ground. The righteous vs. the wicked. This knowledge sometimes makes fighting discouraging and overwhelming. Why use our precious resources to fight against gay marriage when we already know the outcome? The point seems moot. Inane. Futile. The sooner the world reaches this point, the sooner the Savior comes to separate the wheat from the chaff. The sooner we meet our Lord Jesus Christ. The sooner the persecution ends. The sooner we have 1,000 years of peace culminating in one final battle where the good guys win. Satan loses, the Earth receives its paradisiacal glory, and we live with our God. So why not usher in this time? Why not ignore Prop 8? We don’t have to vote “no” but if it just so happens to fail, no big deal. Oh well. Right?


It is unclear when the Savior specifically learned of the full impact and ramifications of his mission. It is only clear that He knew. He knew Judas would betray Him. He knew Peter would deny Him thrice. He knew the people would choose Barrabas over Him. He knew He would be mocked, tortured, crucified. He knew sacred truths would be lost, altered, distorted. His temples would be defiled and burned. He knew the suffering His followers would experience. He knew the priesthood would be taken from the Earth. He knew He would return for the first time three days after His death and for the final time when the Earth cannot possibly become more wicked.

He also knew the outcome. He knew Heavenly Father’s children would return to Him based on their righteousness. He knew despite Satan’s tyranny, God’s goodness would ultimately triumph. He could have eased up and allowed the plan to take its course. But He didn’t. He fought. He preached, taught, ministered, prayed, healed, rebuked, loved…all for a cause He ultimately knew the outcome. So why did He fight? What about this gospel was so crucial to continue teaching even when He knew (because of God’s deep justice) everyone on Earth would eventually have the opportunity to hear the gospel? Why hear it now?

I don’t know the answer. But ultimately, does it matter?

We know our cars will quit functioning. Do we stop filling them with gas or maintaining them?

We know our children will make mistakes. Do we stop teaching?

We know we will die one day. Do we stop eating?

We know the Constitution will hang by a thread. Do we stop protecting our freedoms and just hand them over?

We know people will hurt us. Do we stop loving?

When one, two, even three doctors inform you of your infertility, do you stop hoping and desiring for children? If we did, we wouldn’t have Jonas. Or Phineas.

When we lose a child before birth or after, do we stop remembering? If we did, Nathan Andrew wouldn’t be in our hearts.

When our core values are challenged and persecuted, do we give up? If we did, there would be no Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Do we submit ourselves to evil because it will inevitably increase?


We fight because it’s the right thing to do. We fight to protect our virtue. We fight because it is our responsibility to support legislation that promotes chastity. We fight to defend our God, even if that means walking directly into the lion’s den or into the furnace.

Will our fight ever end before the Second Coming? I should hope not. Because if we stop, that means we’ve lost.

This is what I’m fighting for:

This is what I’m fighting against:
• Gay marriage taught in schools, against my will with no option to pull my children from instruction. It has already happened in Massachusetts when a couple sued the state (and lost) because their second grade child was read King and King (a story of two princes who fall in love and get married). The parents were also informed they could not pull their children from school on these days. A neighboring city is even planning to teach gay marriage in all disciplines (math, reading, science, etc) in all grades. Sex ed will present gay marriage as an appropriate lifestyle. A first grade class in a public school in San Francisco went on a field trip to attend their lesbian teacher’s wedding, missing valuable instruction time to attend this socially instructive (destructive) event. Kindergartners were required to sign a pledge to condone homosexuality. Barack Obama has already voted for comprehensive sex education to take place beginning in Kindergarten. Oh, you will just homeschool your children? Think again. California is also trying to require all homeschooling parents have a teaching certificate.

• Loss of religious liberty. Churches could be required to perform marriages and recognize homosexual couples (with equal standing) or be shut down or sanctioned. While this may not occur immediately, this is a potential consequence of redefining marriage. Elder Bednar speaks of this “tyranny of tolerance” in the video below. I shudder to think that our temples would be closed and eternal marriage would be postponed because of our beliefs that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God.

• Pedophilia, animal love, incest, and other perversions. If gay marriage is legalized on the basis that it is natural and biological, where does it end? Pedophiles can claim that their attraction to children is natural and they cannot help it. A brother and sister (or brother and brother) determine they are in love—what will stop them? A person wants to perform sexual acts with animals or corpses because they cannot choose what they are attracted to and it is their civil right. Where is the line on perversions drawn?

Recently, the French National Assembly commissioned a study related to this topic, deciding against including same-sex marriage as a recognized, equal institution upon the premise of what is best for children and the community. The study (abstract found here), concludes that “the best interests of the child must prevail over adult freedoms…even including the lifestyle choices of parents.” It continues, “"Marriage is not merely the contractual recognition of the love within a couple. It is a framework with rights and obligations conceived in order to welcome the child and provide for his harmonious development." France determined that recognizing homosexual marriage was a detriment to their children. In addition, they will not allow same-sex couples to adopt nor to seek medical means to conceive a child. They are keeping the best interests of the children in mind.

As KT mentions, not everything is a right. There are many laws (that include “exclusions”) made to benefit society. I pray this is one of those laws.

Elder David A. Bednar Q&A about Proposition 8 and its implications

Excerpts from a Church Broadcast to Californian Mormons

Robb and Robin Wirthlin’s Story (the Massachusetts couple who fought against the teaching of homosexuality to their 2nd grade child)

To learn more of the Church’s stance on this topic, please visit Preserving Marriage and LDS Church Newsroom and The Family: A Proclamation to the World

To learn more about Yes on 8, visit Protect Marriage

Call to Action:
The nation will be fasting for Proposition 8 on Monday, November 3, beginning at 10 am. If you support Proposition 8, please fast with us.


heather said...

I really appreciate this post. I can't even imagine what people in California are thinking. I'm so scared b/c if it passes there then it is only a matter of time until is spreads to the rest of the country. It makes me realize that I need to prepare myself for the future of my kids. I'm just so grateful that I have a teaching degree.
By the way, I totally agree with you on voting for mccain. I don't like him either, but I felt that if he was not voted in then our judicial system would be horrible. Thanks for not being afraid to share your thoughts.

Blarney Girl said...

Thank you for stating my thoughts/feelings so clearly. Both in this post and the "Why I Voted for John McCain" post.

Hansen's said...

Bravo! Very well said. We are fighting the same thing here in Arizona. Vote yest on prop 102!

The Huffs said...

Thank you for the time and effort you put into this post. I haven't researched it near to the point that you have. I appreciate your information and totally agree.

Kara said...

Well done Jenn! Thanks so much. It's amazing to see the support from those outside of California. We all appreciate it!

Jeanette said...

Amen! You captured my thoughts perfectly. For this and your toughts on McCain and Obama.

Jake, Sarah and Jackson said...

Loved this post! Totally agree with you 100%.

Karen said...

Jen, you are my role model...I vote you for president! Also, we like to listen to Savage. He is so crazy but has some good points.

jessica said...

Thank you Jen! Every time I see a No on 8 sticker it just makes me so sad, because they just don't get it. If they could read this post I'm sure they would change their minds.

Jennifer said...

Beautifully written Jen. Thanks for making me care again.

Jess said...

Well said. I hope you don't mind if I put a link on my blog to this post--just because I think it is so well-written and want to share this opinion.

Natalie said...

Thanks for sharing Jen, we're voting absentee in CA!

Melissa, Ryan and Addy said...

I'm a friend of Kara's and she linked this post on her blog. What a great post it is! So well written and you do such a great job of linking the gospel to this issue. I agree with all you've said. My husband and I have had numerous conversations about the point you brought up about other groups, such as polygamists wanting to get married. Where are people going to draw the line? I live in California and will certainly be voting tomorrow and voting Yes on Prop. 8!

Jade said...

Hi, you don't know me and I hope you don't mind me commenting on you blog but I have to tell you how moved I am by everything you have said about Prop 8. Everything you wrote is EXACTLY how I feel and have been wanting to express. I am sitting here and want to yell Hallelujah and cry all at the same time by your inspired words!
I wondered if you would mind if I put a link from my blog to yours or even copied and pasted and emailed this to some close friends and family? My blog is private so if this is ok and you get a chance will you email me at jadegibb@gmail.com.
Thank you again so much for sharing!